Issue about Synthetic Full Backups, "Retention mode" and DASH Full

Last post 07-15-2019, 7:35 AM by Wwong. 3 replies.
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  • Issue about Synthetic Full Backups, "Retention mode" and DASH Full
    Posted: 07-09-2019, 11:43 PM
    • Egg is not online. Last active: 07-15-2019, 4:45 PM Egg
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    Hi,

    According to the documentation, "a synthetic full is required only when using subclient retention settings. In creating the list of objects to include in a synthetic full, subclient retention values are consulted" (https://documentation.commvault.com/commvault/v11_sp13/article?p=11720.htm). 

    I am not sure If I understood it correctly. We extend Storage Policy Retention with "Object Based Retention" mode. 1) So, does it apply to us?

     

    If the answer is yes, 2) in few words, what can be done to improve its performance? We have some Synthetic Full Jobs with Multiple streams running for days. One example:

    3) Can DASH Full help us? If yes, the last question, do I need to create another Storage Policy with Deduplication enabled? I can't enable DASH Full (Read Optimized Synthetic Full) in the Storage Policy Copy. The deduplication tab is grayed out.

     

    Commvault v11 SP13+


    Braga, Eduardo
    Backup Administrator
  • Re: Issue about Synthetic Full Backups, "Retention mode" and DASH Full
    Posted: 07-10-2019, 7:34 AM

    Hi Eduardo

    In most cases, users will used Synthetic Full is to consolidate the data written to MA and Disk Library, without needing to reach back out to the Client. This is useful when you don't want to impact the production environment (in terms of load)

    Looking at the screenshot provided, I assume you are using Archiving/onepass for your filesystem -> this will mean this is an infinite incremental with Synthetic Full?

    For question 1, for Onepass Synthetic Full there are various option for consolidation, whether it is keeping the modified files or deleting it, you can refer to the following

    With the last part, if Deduplication is not enabled, you will not be able to enable on the fly. Deduplication needs to be enabled during creation (so if it is grayed out, then Deduplication was not apply during creation of the Copy).

    Regards

    Winston 

  • Re: Issue about Synthetic Full Backups, "Retention mode" and DASH Full
    Posted: 07-10-2019, 12:42 PM
    • Egg is not online. Last active: 07-15-2019, 4:45 PM Egg
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    >Looking at the screenshot provided, I assume you are using Archiving/onepass for your filesystem

    Not sure about that. I'm a new Commvault admin. Maybe I had misinterpreted you. In Commvault, archiving means to move data to a secondary storage and use it to function as an archive copy. Right? It sounds like HSM to me. I just want to backup the data and keep deleted/modified items to be retained for 5 years. This is a big file server. So, I assumed that I need to do a Synthetic Full regularly. ("A synthetic full is required only when using subclient retention settings. In creating the list of objects to include in a synthetic full, subclient retention values are consulted.") 

    For now, I can't use archiving, so I can't setup the Commvault to move or delete anything. 

    >this will mean this is an infinite incremental with Synthetic Full?

    Yes. The idea is do incremental backups everyday and one synthetic full each 30 days. 

    > With the last part, if Deduplication is not enabled, you will not be able to enable on the fly. Deduplication needs to be enabled during creation (so if it is grayed out, then Deduplication was not apply during creation of the Copy).

    I decided to create the Storage Policy without dedup, because our main disk library is a Data Domain and dedupe can't be disabled. And now? We're having troubles with Synthetic Fulls taking a long time to complete. The situation has been getting more complicated as time goes by.

    Maybe a DASH Full can help me, but I can't enable it. 

    What are the options available? 


    Braga, Eduardo
    Backup Administrator
  • Re: Issue about Synthetic Full Backups, "Retention mode" and DASH Full
    Posted: 07-15-2019, 7:35 AM

    Hi Egg

    At the moment you are correct, in Commvault archiving is HSM (Hierarchical Storage Management), where you will need to leverage a Secondary Storage for long term archived data.

    Although it might not be possible to setup Archiving as you have mentioned, when you do get a chance have a review of FileSystem Archiving within Commvault (https://documentation.commvault.com/commvault/v11/article?p=26537.htm)

    Unfortunately I don't believe there are other options to achieve what you need.

    Regards

    Winston 

     

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